tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557555707557308690.post4728062242089297258..comments2023-12-20T00:06:27.127-08:00Comments on Anonymous Works: 1860's CDV of Olive Oatman; Captured By IndiansJoeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13798883246590751721noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557555707557308690.post-18124432507875931182012-01-05T08:32:55.667-08:002012-01-05T08:32:55.667-08:00To Anonymous:
The reason no one ever talks that mu...To Anonymous:<br />The reason no one ever talks that much about how Native Americans were cruel to the whites was because they are generally seen as a people that were just protecting their homes and land. They lived in a different culture where competition over such things were a life and death situation, so while some of their acts of cruelty are frowned upon in today's world, this was just how things were.<br /><br />Back then, the Native American's definition of home wasn't just a dwelling with a roof, it was everything around them that sustained their way of life. The land, the dwellings, the animals. Everything was their home.<br /><br />How would you feel if a group of people you couldn't communicate with just walked into your house, started eating your food, sleeping in your bed, destroying your source of food and thought they were perfectly justifiable in doing so? <br /><br />Yes there would be different avenues of solving a problem like that in today's world, but back then, Native American's took it as an act of invasion and theft, and their way of punishment was obviously on a whole different level than that of the people invading their land.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong though, I obviously don't condone what the Native American's in this biography did to Olive, especially when compared to our standard of life today, but the statement in this story about how "the band if Indians instigated the attack" would be like saying a man who shoots a home invader in today's world instigated the attack on the intruder. <br /><br />Ultimately, the situation between the whites and the Native Americans back then can be attributed to a difference of culture and a lack of understanding between the two groups. But no matter how you spin it or how tragic the losses were on both sides, in the end, you've got to ask yourself who ultimately got what they wanted? That should answer your question as to why people don't talk about the cruelty toward whites as much as they talk about the cruelty toward Native Americans.Numkenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557555707557308690.post-87592636187836973102011-10-14T07:30:23.013-07:002011-10-14T07:30:23.013-07:00Thanks for the info. Krystal! I believe the previo...Thanks for the info. Krystal! I believe the previous information was from a Wikipedia entry, so it's always debatable as to the accuracy of the information.Joeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13798883246590751721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557555707557308690.post-79568242238242998572011-10-14T02:43:49.692-07:002011-10-14T02:43:49.692-07:00Referring to the line "even considering killi...Referring to the line "even considering killing Olive rather than admit they had a white captive." ...I'm not sure where you got your data but Olive vehemently denied any cruel treatment from the Mohave. She always said the Chief and his family treated her as if she were his own daughter and said that the Mohave wept when she left – as <i>well</i> as she. According to the first book ever published on this event, her own account testified that the Mohave had always told her she could leave whenever she wanted to.<br /><br />I've never read the story told otherwise. I'm shocked that after all these years people still feel the need to paint all Native Americans as barbaric. Whoever wrote that was misinformed or still living in their cowboys versus Indians childhood days.<br /><br />A concise, but informative read: http://www.truewestmagazine.com/jcontent/history/history/history-features/2999-10-myths-about-olive-oatmanKrystal M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557555707557308690.post-8418891652316849012008-11-19T13:52:00.000-08:002008-11-19T13:52:00.000-08:00amazing amazing tale!!!!!amazing amazing tale!!!!!srodenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02863279056994309967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557555707557308690.post-28812163524505537312008-11-18T07:01:00.000-08:002008-11-18T07:01:00.000-08:00Hi Mrs. Flam,Thanks for the comment! BTW: Not so s...Hi Mrs. Flam,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comment! BTW: Not so sure about the looks of your Spicy Fried Pasta, but I'm sure it tastes great! I'll have to try it some time.<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>Joey.Joeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13798883246590751721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557555707557308690.post-17053296996280303862008-11-18T06:58:00.000-08:002008-11-18T06:58:00.000-08:00Hi Beverly,Yeah, I was blown away by her story as ...Hi Beverly,<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I was blown away by her story as well. I especially liked how, upon her rescue, she insisted on proper clothing before entering the fort. Through that entire ordeal, she still had a sense of dignity. Incredible survivor.Joeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13798883246590751721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557555707557308690.post-54326435929728173612008-11-16T17:57:00.000-08:002008-11-16T17:57:00.000-08:00absoloutley beautifull in so many ways. thank you ...absoloutley beautifull in so many ways. thank you for sharing.Mrs Flamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14824316531473228888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557555707557308690.post-5777893759884199372008-11-16T11:45:00.000-08:002008-11-16T11:45:00.000-08:00Joey:This story is so fascinating. But it literall...Joey:<BR/>This story is so fascinating. But it literally took my breath away. What an ordeal for the families and especially the two little girls. Olive obviously em-massed huge inner fortitude to allow her portrait taken, with the tattoos. Truly a survivor with her badge of courage.Beverly Kayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16923162649119191171noreply@blogger.com